Audio Dialogue with Ken Wilber & Marc Gafni on Evil

Dr. Marc Gafni and Ken Wilber meet by phone regularly to discuss new thought on a wide range of topics, including the future unfolding of the Center and its initiatives. At the core of their work is key book that is slated for release in the Summer of 2016 on Integral Wisdom or Wake Up – Grow Up – Show Up. This will be the source code book which other books will emerge from and reference.

On this note, we’d like to share a dialogue that will appear in a different form in the book: a beautiful conversation about how the evolved and awake human being engages evil and suffering.

Listen to this vibrant dialogue and read the transcript here: