Parallax hosts this second dialogue: Zak Stein moderates an intense conversation between Dr. Iain McGilchrist and Dr. Marc Gafni

This is the second dialogue between Dr. Marc Gafni, Iain McGilchrist and Zak Stein at Parallax:

See Part 1 Dialogue (The Sacred Power of Story) HERE:

The dialogue spans the sacred nature of story, the loss of value and eros, the nature of evil, and the deep structures shaping culture today.

In Part 2, the conversation turns explicitly toward the question of value itself — whether the sacred is intrinsic to reality or merely projected, and what is at stake in that distinction.

Iain McGilchrist is a British psychiatrist, literary scholar, and one of the most important philosophical voices of our time. He is best known for The Master and His Emissary and *The Matter With Things*, where he argues that the left and right hemispheres of the brain attend to the world in fundamentally different ways, with massive consequences for civilization. His work bridges neuroscience, philosophy, art, and depth psychology, offering a vision of human consciousness grounded in attention, embodiment, and reverence.

Dr. Marc Gafni is a visionary philosopher, spiritual teacher, and social theorist. A former Orthodox rabbi with a doctorate from Oxford University, he is the co-founder of the Center for World Philosophy and Religion and a leading voice in the articulation of “cosmo-erotic humanism.” His books include *Your Unique Self*, *A Return to Eros*, and *Radical Kabbalah*. Gafni’s work fuses Jewish mysticism, integral theory, and Western philosophy to explore the nature of self, eros, and value at the evolutionary edge of human identity and spirituality.

Zak Stein is a Harvard-trained education and transformation philosopher known for his work on developmental ethics, meta-crisis, and the future of human learning.